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Chilean Carmenère vs Hawke’s Bay Syrah

How Chilean Carmenère and Hawke’s Bay Syrah differ, dimension by dimension.

The short answer

The main differences: Hawke’s Bay Syrah has more floral character; Chilean Carmenère has more herbal / green character; Hawke’s Bay Syrah has more spice.

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Chilean Carmenère

Choose Chilean Carmenère if you want something more herbal and green.

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Hawke’s Bay Syrah

Choose Hawke’s Bay Syrah if you want something more floral, spicier, fresher and more acidic.

Where they genuinely differ

Only differences large enough to notice in the glass are listed here. A gap of half a point on a five-point scale is noise, and WineHQ does not dress it up as a finding.

Floral character

Clear difference

Blossom, rose, violet, elderflower, acacia and related aromatic notes.

Chilean Carmenèrelow (1/5)
Hawke’s Bay Syrahtypically medium-plus, ranging from medium to medium-plus (4/5)

Hawke’s Bay Syrah is more floral: medium-plus against low.

Herbal / green character

Clear difference

Herbs, grass, blackcurrant leaf, capsicum and other green notes, largely driven by methoxypyrazines and picking decisions.

Chilean Carmenèretypically medium-plus, ranging from medium to high (4/5)
Hawke’s Bay Syrahlow (1/5)

Chilean Carmenère is more herbal and green: medium-plus against low.

Spice

Clear difference

Pepper, clove, cinnamon and related spice notes, whether from the grape (as with rotundone in Syrah) or from oak.

Chilean Carmenèretypically medium, ranging from low-medium to medium-plus (3/5)
Hawke’s Bay Syrahtypically high, ranging from medium-plus to high (5/5)

Hawke’s Bay Syrah is spicier: high against medium.

Acidity

Clear difference

Total perceived acidity. Rises in cooler climates and with earlier picking; falls with heat and ripeness.

Chilean Carmenèretypically medium, ranging from low-medium to medium-plus (3/5)
Hawke’s Bay Syrahtypically medium-plus, ranging from medium to medium-plus (4/5)

Hawke’s Bay Syrah is fresher and more acidic: medium-plus against medium.

Tannin

Clear difference

Phenolic compounds from grape skins, seeds, stems and oak. The principal structural axis of red wine.

Chilean Carmenèretypically medium, ranging from low-medium to medium-plus (3/5)
Hawke’s Bay Syrahtypically medium-plus, ranging from medium to medium-plus (4/5)

Hawke’s Bay Syrah is more tannic and structured: medium-plus against medium.

Perceived freshness

Clear difference

The overall impression of liveliness — a composite of acidity, alcohol balance, fruit character and the absence of tiredness. Distinct from raw acidity: a wine can be high in acid yet taste heavy.

Chilean Carmenèretypically medium, ranging from low-medium to medium (3/5)
Hawke’s Bay Syrahtypically medium-plus, ranging from medium to medium-plus (4/5)

Hawke’s Bay Syrah is fresher: medium-plus against medium.

Where they are much the same

Just as useful: knowing which parts of the choice do not matter.

  • Sweetness: Similar — both low.
  • Alcohol: Similar — both medium-plus.
  • Body: Similar — both medium-plus.
  • Fruit intensity: Similar — both medium-plus.
  • Aromatic intensity: Similar — both medium.

Full side by side

DimensionChilean CarmenèreHawke’s Bay Syrah
Floral characterlow (1/5)typically medium-plus, ranging from medium to medium-plus (4/5)
Herbal / green charactertypically medium-plus, ranging from medium to high (4/5)low (1/5)
Spicetypically medium, ranging from low-medium to medium-plus (3/5)typically high, ranging from medium-plus to high (5/5)
Aciditytypically medium, ranging from low-medium to medium-plus (3/5)typically medium-plus, ranging from medium to medium-plus (4/5)
Tannintypically medium, ranging from low-medium to medium-plus (3/5)typically medium-plus, ranging from medium to medium-plus (4/5)
Perceived freshnesstypically medium, ranging from low-medium to medium (3/5)typically medium-plus, ranging from medium to medium-plus (4/5)
Sweetnesslow (1/5)low (1/5)
Alcoholtypically medium-plus, ranging from medium to medium-plus (4/5)typically medium-plus, ranging from medium to medium-plus (4/5)
Bodytypically medium-plus, ranging from medium to medium-plus (4/5)typically medium-plus, ranging from medium to medium-plus (4/5)
Fruit intensitytypically medium-plus, ranging from medium to medium-plus (4/5)typically medium-plus, ranging from medium to medium-plus (4/5)
Aromatic intensitymedium (3/5)medium (3/5)
Oak influencetypically medium, ranging from low-medium to medium-plus (3/5)typically medium, ranging from low-medium to medium-plus (3/5)
Savoury charactertypically medium-plus, ranging from medium to medium-plus (4/5)typically medium-plus, ranging from medium to medium-plus (4/5)
Earthy characterlow (1/5)low (1/5)
Carbonationlow (1/5)low (1/5)
Texturetypically medium-plus, ranging from medium to medium-plus (4/5)typically medium-plus, ranging from medium to medium-plus (4/5)
Serve at15–17°C15–17°C
Typical flavoursblack plum, green peppercorn, soy, bell pepper, cocoablackberry, black pepper, violet, olive, plum

Values are typical points within each wine’s range. Both wines vary — see the individual pages for how much.

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