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Wines like Mondeuse Noire

Savoie’s peppery Alpine red, established by DNA analysis as a close relative of Syrah. Below: what to try next, grouped by the direction you want to travel.

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What do you like about Mondeuse Noire?

Optional — the results below already work without it. But “I like Malbec” is at least four different preferences wearing one name, and saying which one you mean changes the answer substantially. Only qualities this wine actually has are offered.

I like…

The bright red fruit The rich dark fruit How fresh and crisp it is The firm, grippy structure That it is not oaky The spice

But it’s a bit…

too tart or sour-fruited too sharp or acidic too alcoholic or warming too light or thin too plain or too simple too peppery

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What these words mean

The bright red fruit: Raspberry, redcurrant, sour cherry — lighter and sharper than dark fruit, usually from a cooler place or an earlier picking.
The rich dark fruit: Blackberry, plum, black cherry — fruit that tastes ripe and generous rather than tart. It comes from warm-climate ripening and it is what most people mean when they call a red "fruity".
How fresh and crisp it is: Acidity is what makes your mouth water and makes a wine feel refreshing rather than heavy. It is the single most useful thing to know about your own taste.
The firm, grippy structure: High tannin — the drying grip on your gums, like over-brewed tea. It gives a red something to hold on to with rich food, and it is what lets a wine age.
That it is not too strong: Alcohol you notice as warmth at the back of the throat. Some people find it a pleasant part of a big red and some find it tiring.
How light it is: A wine you can drink without it feeling like a commitment. Usually lower in alcohol as well as lighter in the mouth.
That it is not oaky: No barrel character — just the fruit and the acidity. Chablis and Marlborough Sauvignon Blanc are the reference points.
The spice: Black pepper, clove, cinnamon. Some of it is the grape — the pepper in Syrah is a measured compound called rotundone — and some is the barrel.

Looking for something keeping the fresh, crisp acidity and the peppery, spicy character, while moving away from too sharp or acidic, too peppery and too tart or sour-fruited.

You said you like the fresh, crisp acidity and that it is too sharp or acidic. Both are about acidity, so they pull the same axis in opposite directions — the dislike is applied and the like is set aside.
You said you like the fresh, crisp acidity and that it is too sharp or acidic. Both are about perceived freshness, so they pull the same axis in opposite directions — the dislike is applied and the like is set aside.
You said you like the peppery, spicy character and that it is too peppery. Both are about spice, so they pull the same axis in opposite directions — the dislike is applied and the like is set aside.
You said you like the fresh, crisp acidity and that it is too tart or sour-fruited. Both are about perceived freshness, so they pull the same axis in opposite directions — the dislike is applied and the like is set aside.

Based on what you said

Ranked against the qualities you named rather than against the wine as a whole. The directions below are refined the same way.

Red Bordeaux

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Has some of the fresh, crisp acidity, though less of it.
Has some of the peppery, spicy character, though less of it.
Substantially less sharp or acidic.
Substantially less peppery.
Substantially less tart or sour-fruited.

Pinot Noir

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Has some of the fresh, crisp acidity, though less of it.
Has some of the peppery, spicy character, though less of it.
Substantially less sharp or acidic.
Substantially less peppery.
A little less tart or sour-fruited.

Rioja

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Has noticeably less of the fresh, crisp acidity.
Has some of the peppery, spicy character, though less of it.
Substantially less sharp or acidic.
Substantially less peppery.
Substantially less tart or sour-fruited.

Rioja Reserva

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Has noticeably less of the fresh, crisp acidity.
Has some of the peppery, spicy character, though less of it.
Substantially less sharp or acidic.
Substantially less peppery.
Substantially less tart or sour-fruited.

Cornalin

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Has some of the fresh, crisp acidity, though less of it.
Has some of the peppery, spicy character, though less of it.
Substantially less sharp or acidic.
Substantially less peppery.
A little less tart or sour-fruited.

Valais Cornalin

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Has some of the fresh, crisp acidity, though less of it.
Has some of the peppery, spicy character, though less of it.
Substantially less sharp or acidic.
Substantially less peppery.
A little less tart or sour-fruited.

Valpolicella Ripasso

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Has some of the fresh, crisp acidity, though less of it.
Has some of the peppery, spicy character, though less of it.
Substantially less sharp or acidic.
Substantially less peppery.
A little less tart or sour-fruited.

Corvina

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Has some of the fresh, crisp acidity, though less of it.
Has some of the peppery, spicy character, though less of it.
Substantially less sharp or acidic.
Substantially less peppery.
A little less tart or sour-fruited.

Closest overall

Nearest neighbours, no change of direction.

Closest matches

The nearest overall neighbours across structure and flavour, with no deliberate change of direction.

Red Bordeaux

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and more savoury.

Pinot Noir

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and more oaky.

Rioja

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and more oaky.

Rioja Reserva

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and more oaky.

Different grape, similar feel

Deliberately excludes the variety you already know, to find a genuinely new wine that fills the same role.

Red Bordeaux

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and more savoury.

Pinot Noir

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and more oaky.

Rioja

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and more oaky.

Rioja Reserva

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and more oaky.

Change the structure

Same idea, different weight, grip or freshness.

Similar but lighter

Keeps the character but reduces weight, alcohol and density in the mouth.

Grolleau

Both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and less spicy.

Schiava

Schiava scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.

Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and less spicy.

Tibouren

Both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and less spicy.

País

País scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.

Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and less spicy.

Similar but lower in alcohol

Holds the character and the weight where it can, and moves specifically on strength. Note that below about 11% the choices narrow sharply, and below 5% they are mostly a different category rather than a lighter version of the same one.

English still Pinot Noir

English still Pinot Noir scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.

Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and less spicy.

Pinot Noir

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and more oaky.

Grolleau

They occupy similar territory for weight and structure, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and less spicy.

Trousseau

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and fruitier.

Similar but fuller

Keeps the character but adds weight, concentration and mouthfeel.

Rioja

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and more oaky.

Rioja Reserva

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and more oaky.

Syrah

curated

A close genetic relative with the same peppery signature.

Expect: Fuller-bodied and riper.

Valpolicella Ripasso

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fruitier, and sweeter.

Similar but less tannic

For readers who find firm reds drying. Reduces tannic grip while holding flavour and weight roughly steady.

Valpolicella Ripasso

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fruitier, and sweeter.

Australian Grenache

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fruitier, and more floral.

Rioja Crianza

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and fruitier.

Nero d’Avola

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and fruitier.

Similar but more structured

More tannic architecture, for food or for ageing.

Aglianico

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fresher and more acidic, and more oaky.

Taurasi

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fresher and more acidic, and more savoury.

Nebbiolo

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fresher and more acidic, and more oaky.

Barolo

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fresher and more acidic, and more savoury.

Similar but softer

Lowers acidity and sharpness in favour of a broader, gentler feel.

Rioja

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and more oaky.

Rioja Reserva

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and more oaky.

Valpolicella Ripasso

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fruitier, and sweeter.

Australian Grenache

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fruitier, and more floral.

The sparkling version

Moves to a sparkling expression while holding the flavour and weight as close as possible.

Sparkling Shiraz

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fruitier, and broader and softer.

Lambrusco

They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.

Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and fresher.

Lambrusco Grasparossa

They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.

Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and fresher.

Franciacorta

They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.

Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and fruitier.

Similar but sweeter

Adds perceptible sweetness, which also softens acidity and chilli heat.

Valpolicella Ripasso

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fruitier, and more oaky.

Corvina

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fruitier, and more oaky.

Pinotage

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and fruitier.

Tinto Cão

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and lighter.

Change the flavour

Same shape, different aromatic character.

Similar but more oaky

Adds barrel character, toast and a creamier texture.

Rioja

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and more oaky.

Rioja Reserva

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and more oaky.

Rioja Crianza

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and fruitier.

Fetească Neagră

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and fruitier.

Similar but more aromatic

More to smell before you taste — floral, fruity or spiced aromatics.

Pinot Noir

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and more oaky.

Nebbiolo

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fresher and more acidic, and more aromatic.

Barolo

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fresher and more acidic, and more savoury.

Malbec

They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and softer and rounder.

Similar but more restrained

For readers who find intensely aromatic wines tiring over a whole glass. Keeps the structure, turns the volume down.

Nothing in WineHQ's catalogue makes this move meaningfully from here. These are the closest wines otherwise, but do not expect them to deliver what you asked for — the honest answer is that this style does not have a good neighbour in that direction.

Red Bordeaux

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more aromatic, and more oaky.

Rioja

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and more oaky.

Rioja Reserva

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and more oaky.

Cornalin

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fruitier, and more aromatic.

Similar but more floral

Pushes specifically towards rose, violet, blossom and elderflower character.

Pinot Noir

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and more oaky.

Nebbiolo

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fresher and more acidic, and more oaky.

Barolo

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fresher and more acidic, and more savoury.

Malbec

They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and softer and rounder.

Similar but more savoury

Moves away from primary fruit towards earth, herb, meat and umami character.

Red Bordeaux

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and more savoury.

Pinot Noir

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and more oaky.

Rioja

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and more oaky.

Rioja Reserva

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and more oaky.

Similar but fruitier

More obvious, generous fruit flavour, usually from a warmer climate.

Petite Sirah

Petite Sirah scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.

Expect: Expect it to be fruitier, and broader and softer.

Zinfandel

Zinfandel scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.

Expect: Expect it to be fruitier, and broader and softer.

Primitivo

Primitivo scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.

Expect: Expect it to be fruitier, and broader and softer.

Primitivo di Manduria

Primitivo di Manduria scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.

Expect: Expect it to be fruitier, and broader and softer.

Change the mood

Safer, stranger, cheaper or more serious.

A safe next step

Well-known wines that are widely available and unlikely to surprise anyone.

Red Bordeaux

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and more savoury.

Pinot Noir

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and more oaky.

Rioja

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and more oaky.

Rioja Reserva

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and more oaky.

Something more adventurous

Less familiar wines that occupy similar territory — the interesting end of the shelf.

Cornalin

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fruitier, and more savoury.

Valais Cornalin

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fruitier, and more savoury.

Valpolicella Ripasso

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fruitier, and sweeter.

Corvina

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fruitier, and more oaky.

A better-value alternative

Wines that occupy similar sensory territory from regions carrying less price premium. WineHQ does not hold live prices, so this reasons from regional reputation and demand rather than from a price feed — treat it as a lead, not a quote.

Cornalin

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fruitier, and more savoury.

Valais Cornalin

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fruitier, and more savoury.

Valpolicella Ripasso

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fruitier, and sweeter.

Corvina

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fruitier, and more oaky.

A step up

The benchmark expressions of the same territory, usually with more concentration, structure and ageing potential.

Red Bordeaux

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and more herbal and green.

Rioja

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and more oaky.

Rioja Reserva

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and more oaky.

Cabernet Sauvignon

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and fruitier.

How these are chosen

Each suggestion is scored across sixteen taste dimensions, weighted so that structure matters more than flavour, and adjusted for whether the wine actually moves in the direction you asked for. Curated links from an editor carry extra weight — but only when the editor tagged them for this direction. Nothing here is a black box; see the taste model for the full method.