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Wines like Mondeuse Noire
Savoie’s peppery Alpine red, established by DNA analysis as a close relative of Syrah. Below: what to try next, grouped by the direction you want to travel.
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What do you like about Mondeuse Noire?
Optional — the results below already work without it. But “I like Malbec” is at least four different preferences wearing one name, and saying which one you mean changes the answer substantially. Only qualities this wine actually has are offered.
What these words mean
- The bright red fruit
- Raspberry, redcurrant, sour cherry — lighter and sharper than dark fruit, usually from a cooler place or an earlier picking.
- The rich dark fruit
- Blackberry, plum, black cherry — fruit that tastes ripe and generous rather than tart. It comes from warm-climate ripening and it is what most people mean when they call a red "fruity".
- How fresh and crisp it is
- Acidity is what makes your mouth water and makes a wine feel refreshing rather than heavy. It is the single most useful thing to know about your own taste.
- The firm, grippy structure
- High tannin — the drying grip on your gums, like over-brewed tea. It gives a red something to hold on to with rich food, and it is what lets a wine age.
- That it is not too strong
- Alcohol you notice as warmth at the back of the throat. Some people find it a pleasant part of a big red and some find it tiring.
- How light it is
- A wine you can drink without it feeling like a commitment. Usually lower in alcohol as well as lighter in the mouth.
- That it is not oaky
- No barrel character — just the fruit and the acidity. Chablis and Marlborough Sauvignon Blanc are the reference points.
- The spice
- Black pepper, clove, cinnamon. Some of it is the grape — the pepper in Syrah is a measured compound called rotundone — and some is the barrel.
Looking for something keeping that the fruit is not covered in oak, the fresh, crisp acidity and the peppery, spicy character.
Based on what you said
Ranked against the qualities you named rather than against the wine as a whole. The directions below are refined the same way.
Nero di Troia
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
- Keeps that the fruit is not covered in oak.
- Has noticeably less of the fresh, crisp acidity.
- Keeps the peppery, spicy character.
Trincadeira
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
- Keeps that the fruit is not covered in oak.
- Has noticeably less of the fresh, crisp acidity.
- Keeps the peppery, spicy character.
Trousseau
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure, and both come from the same country.
- Keeps that the fruit is not covered in oak.
- Has some of the fresh, crisp acidity, though less of it.
- Has some of the peppery, spicy character, though less of it.
Cornalin
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
- Keeps that the fruit is not covered in oak.
- Has some of the fresh, crisp acidity, though less of it.
- Has some of the peppery, spicy character, though less of it.
Prokupac
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
- Keeps that the fruit is not covered in oak.
- Has some of the fresh, crisp acidity, though less of it.
- Has some of the peppery, spicy character, though less of it.
Areni
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
- Has some of that the fruit is not covered in oak, though less of it.
- Keeps the fresh, crisp acidity.
- Has some of the peppery, spicy character, though less of it.
Saperavi
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
- Has some of that the fruit is not covered in oak, though less of it.
- Keeps the fresh, crisp acidity.
- Has some of the peppery, spicy character, though less of it.
Blaufränkisch
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
- Has noticeably less of that the fruit is not covered in oak.
- Keeps the fresh, crisp acidity.
- Keeps the peppery, spicy character.
Closest overall
Nearest neighbours, no change of direction.
Closest matches
The nearest overall neighbours across structure and flavour, with no deliberate change of direction.
Nero di Troia
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and softer and rounder.
Trincadeira
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and softer and rounder.
Trousseau
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure, and both come from the same country.
Expect: Expect it to be softer and rounder, and less spicy.
Cornalin
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be softer and rounder, and broader and softer.
Different grape, similar feel
Deliberately excludes the variety you already know, to find a genuinely new wine that fills the same role.
Nero di Troia
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and softer and rounder.
Trincadeira
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and softer and rounder.
Trousseau
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure, and both come from the same country.
Expect: Expect it to be softer and rounder, and less spicy.
Cornalin
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be softer and rounder, and broader and softer.
Change the structure
Same idea, different weight, grip or freshness.
Similar but lighter
Keeps the character but reduces weight, alcohol and density in the mouth.
Molinara
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and less tannic and softer.
English still Pinot Noir
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and more oaky.
Schiava
Schiava scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and softer and rounder.
Grolleau
Both come from the same country.
Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and softer and rounder.
Similar but lower in alcohol
Holds the character and the weight where it can, and moves specifically on strength. Note that below about 11% the choices narrow sharply, and below 5% they are mostly a different category rather than a lighter version of the same one.
English still Pinot Noir
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and more oaky.
Riesling
The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.
Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and less tannic and softer.
Molinara
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and less tannic and softer.
Red Burgundy
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure, and both come from the same country.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and less spicy.
Similar but fuller
Keeps the character but adds weight, concentration and mouthfeel.
Saperavi
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and broader and softer.
Swartland Syrah and Rhône blends
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be softer and rounder, and more oaky.
Nero di Troia
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and softer and rounder.
Trincadeira
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and softer and rounder.
Similar but less tannic
For readers who find firm reds drying. Reduces tannic grip while holding flavour and weight roughly steady.
Trincadeira
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and softer and rounder.
Trousseau
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure, and both come from the same country.
Expect: Expect it to be softer and rounder, and less spicy.
Molinara
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and less tannic and softer.
Prokupac
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be softer and rounder, and less spicy.
Similar but more structured
More tannic architecture, for food or for ageing.
Aglianico
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and broader and softer.
Brunello di Montalcino
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and broader and softer.
Taurasi
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and broader and softer.
Nebbiolo
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and less spicy.
Similar but softer
Lowers acidity and sharpness in favour of a broader, gentler feel.
Swartland Syrah and Rhône blends
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be softer and rounder, and more oaky.
Nero di Troia
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be softer and rounder, and broader and softer.
Trincadeira
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be softer and rounder, and broader and softer.
Valpolicella Ripasso
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be softer and rounder, and more oaky.
The sparkling version
Moves to a sparkling expression while holding the flavour and weight as close as possible.
Lambrusco
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and softer and rounder.
Lambrusco Grasparossa
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and softer and rounder.
Sparkling Shiraz
Sparkling Shiraz scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and broader and softer.
Nero di Troia
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and softer and rounder.
Similar but sweeter
Adds perceptible sweetness, which also softens acidity and chilli heat.
Saperavi
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and broader and softer.
Vintage Port
Vintage Port scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and softer and rounder.
Lambrusco Grasparossa
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and softer and rounder.
Valpolicella Ripasso
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and softer and rounder.
Change the flavour
Same shape, different aromatic character.
Similar but more oaky
Adds barrel character, toast and a creamier texture.
Saperavi
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and broader and softer.
Swartland Syrah and Rhône blends
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and softer and rounder.
Areni
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and less spicy.
Valpolicella Ripasso
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and softer and rounder.
Similar but more aromatic
More to smell before you taste — floral, fruity or spiced aromatics.
Nebbiolo
Nebbiolo scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and less spicy.
Barolo
Barolo scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and less spicy.
Pinot Noir
Both come from the same country.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and softer and rounder.
Gamay
Both come from the same country.
Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and more oaky.
Similar but more restrained
For readers who find intensely aromatic wines tiring over a whole glass. Keeps the structure, turns the volume down.
Nothing in WineHQ's catalogue makes this move meaningfully from here. These are the closest wines otherwise, but do not expect them to deliver what you asked for — the honest answer is that this style does not have a good neighbour in that direction.
Nero di Troia
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and softer and rounder.
Trincadeira
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and softer and rounder.
Trousseau
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure, and both come from the same country.
Expect: Expect it to be softer and rounder, and less spicy.
Cornalin
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be softer and rounder, and broader and softer.
Similar but more floral
Pushes specifically towards rose, violet, blossom and elderflower character.
Graciano
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and more floral.
Nebbiolo
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and less spicy.
Barolo
Barolo scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and less spicy.
Red Burgundy
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure, and both come from the same country.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and less spicy.
Similar but more savoury
Moves away from primary fruit towards earth, herb, meat and umami character.
Areni
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and less spicy.
Red Burgundy
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure, and both come from the same country.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and less spicy.
Saperavi
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and broader and softer.
Swartland Syrah and Rhône blends
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be softer and rounder, and more oaky.
Similar but fruitier
More obvious, generous fruit flavour, usually from a warmer climate.
Petite Sirah
Petite Sirah scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and broader and softer.
Zinfandel
Zinfandel scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be softer and rounder, and more oaky.
Primitivo di Manduria
Primitivo di Manduria scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be softer and rounder, and more oaky.
Primitivo
Primitivo scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be softer and rounder, and more oaky.
Change the mood
Safer, stranger, cheaper or more serious.
A safe next step
Well-known wines that are widely available and unlikely to surprise anyone.
Red Burgundy
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure, and both come from the same country.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and less spicy.
Sangiovese
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and less spicy.
Brunello di Montalcino
Brunello di Montalcino scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and broader and softer.
Nebbiolo
Nebbiolo scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and less spicy.
Something more adventurous
Less familiar wines that occupy similar territory — the interesting end of the shelf.
Nero di Troia
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and softer and rounder.
Trincadeira
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and softer and rounder.
Trousseau
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure, and both come from the same country.
Expect: Expect it to be softer and rounder, and less spicy.
Cornalin
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be softer and rounder, and broader and softer.
A better-value alternative
Wines that occupy similar sensory territory from regions carrying less price premium. WineHQ does not hold live prices, so this reasons from regional reputation and demand rather than from a price feed — treat it as a lead, not a quote.
Nero di Troia
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and softer and rounder.
Trincadeira
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and softer and rounder.
Trousseau
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure, and both come from the same country.
Expect: Expect it to be softer and rounder, and less spicy.
Cornalin
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be softer and rounder, and broader and softer.
A step up
The benchmark expressions of the same territory, usually with more concentration, structure and ageing potential.
Sangiovese
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and less spicy.
Brunello di Montalcino
Brunello di Montalcino scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and broader and softer.
Nebbiolo
Nebbiolo scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and less spicy.
Barolo
Barolo scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and less spicy.
Each suggestion is scored across sixteen taste dimensions, weighted so that structure matters more than flavour, and adjusted for whether the wine actually moves in the direction you asked for. Curated links from an editor carry extra weight — but only when the editor tagged them for this direction. Nothing here is a black box; see the taste model for the full method.