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Wines like Vidal
A thick-skinned hybrid that made Canadian icewine possible. Below: what to try next, grouped by the direction you want to travel.
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What do you like about Vidal?
Optional — the results below already work without it. But “I like Malbec” is at least four different preferences wearing one name, and saying which one you mean changes the answer substantially. Only qualities this wine actually has are offered.
What these words mean
- The tropical fruit
- Passionfruit, mango, pineapple, guava. It comes from riper fruit and warmer sites, and it is the difference between Marlborough and Sancerre in the same grape.
- That it is not too strong
- Alcohol you notice as warmth at the back of the throat. Some people find it a pleasant part of a big red and some find it tiring.
- How full and weighty it is
- Body is how much the wine seems to fill your mouth — the difference between skimmed and whole milk. It comes mostly from alcohol and ripeness.
- The creamy, rounded texture
- A soft, almost dairy-like roundness. In white wine it usually comes from malolactic fermentation or from time on the lees, not from the grape.
- That it is not oaky
- No barrel character — just the fruit and the acidity. Chablis and Marlborough Sauvignon Blanc are the reference points.
- How aromatic it is
- Some grapes announce themselves from across the room — Gewürztraminer, Muscat, Sauvignon Blanc. Others are far quieter, and quiet is not the same as dull.
- The touch of sweetness
- Actual sugar left in the wine, which is a different thing from tasting fruity. A wine can smell of ripe peach and be completely dry.
Looking for something keeping that it is not too alcoholic, while moving away from too sweet, too heavy and too plain or too simple.
Based on what you said
Ranked against the qualities you named rather than against the wine as a whole. The directions below are refined the same way.
White Bordeaux
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
- Has some of that it is not too alcoholic, though less of it.
- Substantially less sweet.
- A little less heavy.
- Substantially less plain or too simple.
Koshu
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
- Keeps that it is not too alcoholic.
- Substantially less sweet.
- Substantially less heavy.
- Substantially less plain or too simple.
Alpine white
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
- Keeps that it is not too alcoholic.
- Substantially less sweet.
- Substantially less heavy.
- Substantially less plain or too simple.
Rheinhessen Riesling
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
- Has some of that it is not too alcoholic, though less of it.
- Substantially less sweet.
- A little less heavy.
- Substantially less plain or too simple.
Pinot Gris
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
- Has some of that it is not too alcoholic, though less of it.
- Substantially less sweet.
- A little less heavy.
- Substantially less plain or too simple.
Rheingau Riesling
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
- Has some of that it is not too alcoholic, though less of it.
- Substantially less sweet.
- A little less heavy.
- Substantially less plain or too simple.
Slavonian Graševina
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
- Has some of that it is not too alcoholic, though less of it.
- Substantially less sweet.
- A little less heavy.
- Substantially less plain or too simple.
Garganega
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
- Has some of that it is not too alcoholic, though less of it.
- Substantially less sweet.
- A little less heavy.
- Substantially less plain or too simple.
Closest overall
Nearest neighbours, no change of direction.
Closest matches
The nearest overall neighbours across structure and flavour, with no deliberate change of direction.
White Bordeaux
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and drier.
Koshu
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be drier, and less oaky.
Alpine white
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be drier, and less oaky.
Rheinhessen Riesling
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and less oaky.
Different grape, similar feel
Deliberately excludes the variety you already know, to find a genuinely new wine that fills the same role.
White Bordeaux
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and drier.
Koshu
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be drier, and less oaky.
Alpine white
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be drier, and less oaky.
Rheinhessen Riesling
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and less oaky.
Change the structure
Same idea, different weight, grip or freshness.
Similar but lighter
Keeps the character but reduces weight, alcohol and density in the mouth.
Hunter Valley Semillon
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be less oaky, and lighter.
Koshu
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and drier.
Alpine white
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and drier.
Kabinett
Kabinett scores closest to Vidal across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and less oaky.
Similar but lower in alcohol
Holds the character and the weight where it can, and moves specifically on strength. Note that below about 11% the choices narrow sharply, and below 5% they are mostly a different category rather than a lighter version of the same one.
Hunter Valley Semillon
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be less oaky, and drier.
Kabinett
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and less oaky.
Mosel Riesling
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and less oaky.
Koshu
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and drier.
Similar but fuller
Keeps the character but adds weight, concentration and mouthfeel.
Condrieu
Condrieu scores closest to Vidal across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be fuller and richer, and stronger and warmer.
Viognier
Viognier scores closest to Vidal across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be fuller and richer, and stronger and warmer.
Chardonnay
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be fuller and richer, and stronger and warmer.
White Bordeaux
The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and drier.
Similar but less tannic
For readers who find firm reds drying. Reduces tannic grip while holding flavour and weight roughly steady.
Nothing in WineHQ's catalogue makes this move meaningfully from here. These are the closest wines otherwise, but do not expect them to deliver what you asked for — the honest answer is that this style does not have a good neighbour in that direction.
White Bordeaux
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and drier.
Sémillon
The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and sweeter.
Chenin Blanc
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and sweeter.
Verdicchio
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and drier.
Similar but more structured
More tannic architecture, for food or for ageing.
Koshu
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be drier, and less oaky.
Istrian Malvazija
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and drier.
Brda Rebula
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and drier.
Mtsvane Kakhuri
Mtsvane Kakhuri scores closest to Vidal across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be less oaky, and stronger and warmer.
Similar but fresher
Raises acidity and overall lift, usually by moving to a cooler-climate expression.
Alpine white
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be drier, and less oaky.
Rheingau Riesling
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and less oaky.
Montlouis-sur-Loire
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and less oaky.
Chenin Blanc
The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and sweeter.
Similar but softer
Lowers acidity and sharpness in favour of a broader, gentler feel.
California Chardonnay
California Chardonnay scores closest to Vidal across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and fuller and richer.
Marsanne
Marsanne scores closest to Vidal across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and drier.
Auxerrois
Auxerrois scores closest to Vidal across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be less oaky, and stronger and warmer.
Alsace Pinot Gris
Alsace Pinot Gris scores closest to Vidal across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and fuller and richer.
The sparkling version
Moves to a sparkling expression while holding the flavour and weight as close as possible.
Franciacorta
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and less oaky.
Méthode Cap Classique
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and less oaky.
Champagne
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and less oaky.
California traditional-method sparkling
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and less oaky.
Similar but drier
Reduces perceptible sugar while keeping aromatic character.
White Bordeaux
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be drier, and stronger and warmer.
Koshu
Koshu scores closest to Vidal across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be drier, and less oaky.
Alpine white
Alpine white scores closest to Vidal across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be drier, and less oaky.
Pinot Gris
The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and less oaky.
Similar but sweeter
Adds perceptible sweetness, which also softens acidity and chilli heat.
Moscato d’Asti
Moscato d’Asti scores closest to Vidal across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be sweeter, and less oaky.
Asti
Asti scores closest to Vidal across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be sweeter, and less oaky.
Auslese
Auslese scores closest to Vidal across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be sweeter, and less oaky.
Canadian Icewine
Both are made from vidal, and both come from the same country.
Expect: Expect it to be sweeter, and fuller and richer.
Change the flavour
Same shape, different aromatic character.
Similar but more oaky
Adds barrel character, toast and a creamier texture.
White Bordeaux
The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and drier.
Sémillon
The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and sweeter.
Chenin Blanc
The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and sweeter.
Chardonnay
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and drier.
Similar but more aromatic
More to smell before you taste — floral, fruity or spiced aromatics.
Sauvignon Blanc
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and less oaky.
Marlborough Sauvignon Blanc
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and less oaky.
Moschofilero
Moschofilero scores closest to Vidal across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be less oaky, and drier.
Mantinia Moschofilero
Mantinia Moschofilero scores closest to Vidal across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be less oaky, and drier.
Similar but more restrained
For readers who find intensely aromatic wines tiring over a whole glass. Keeps the structure, turns the volume down.
Koshu
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be drier, and less oaky.
Alpine white
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be drier, and less oaky.
Sémillon
The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and sweeter.
Silvaner
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and less oaky.
Similar but more floral
Pushes specifically towards rose, violet, blossom and elderflower character.
Marlborough Sauvignon Blanc
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and less oaky.
Moschofilero
Moschofilero scores closest to Vidal across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be less oaky, and drier.
Mantinia Moschofilero
Mantinia Moschofilero scores closest to Vidal across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be less oaky, and drier.
Sauvignon Blanc
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and less oaky.
Similar but more savoury
Moves away from primary fruit towards earth, herb, meat and umami character.
Silvaner
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and less oaky.
Franken Silvaner
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and drier.
White Bordeaux
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and drier.
Pouilly-Fumé
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and drier.
Similar but fruitier
More obvious, generous fruit flavour, usually from a warmer climate.
Marlborough Sauvignon Blanc
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and less oaky.
Spätlese
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be less oaky, and sweeter.
Muscat Blanc à Petits Grains
Muscat Blanc à Petits Grains scores closest to Vidal across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be less oaky, and stronger and warmer.
Condrieu
Condrieu scores closest to Vidal across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be fuller and richer, and stronger and warmer.
Change the mood
Safer, stranger, cheaper or more serious.
A safe next step
Well-known wines that are widely available and unlikely to surprise anyone.
Pinot Gris
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and less oaky.
Chenin Blanc
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and sweeter.
Sauvignon Blanc
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and less oaky.
Chardonnay
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and drier.
Something more adventurous
Less familiar wines that occupy similar territory — the interesting end of the shelf.
White Bordeaux
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and drier.
Koshu
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be drier, and less oaky.
Alpine white
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be drier, and less oaky.
Rheinhessen Riesling
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and less oaky.
A better-value alternative
Wines that occupy similar sensory territory from regions carrying less price premium. WineHQ does not hold live prices, so this reasons from regional reputation and demand rather than from a price feed — treat it as a lead, not a quote.
White Bordeaux
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and drier.
Koshu
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be drier, and less oaky.
Alpine white
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be drier, and less oaky.
Rheinhessen Riesling
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and less oaky.
A step up
The benchmark expressions of the same territory, usually with more concentration, structure and ageing potential.
Nothing in WineHQ's catalogue makes this move meaningfully from here. These are the closest wines otherwise, but do not expect them to deliver what you asked for — the honest answer is that this style does not have a good neighbour in that direction.
Chardonnay
They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and drier.
South African Chenin Blanc
South African Chenin Blanc scores closest to Vidal across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and fuller and richer.
Australian Chardonnay
Australian Chardonnay scores closest to Vidal across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and drier.
White Burgundy
White Burgundy scores closest to Vidal across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.
Expect: Expect it to be stronger and warmer, and drier.
Each suggestion is scored across sixteen taste dimensions, weighted so that structure matters more than flavour, and adjusted for whether the wine actually moves in the direction you asked for. Curated links from an editor carry extra weight — but only when the editor tagged them for this direction. Nothing here is a black box; see the taste model for the full method.