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Wines like Mondeuse Noire

Savoie’s peppery Alpine red, established by DNA analysis as a close relative of Syrah. Below: what to try next, grouped by the direction you want to travel.

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What do you like about Mondeuse Noire?

Optional — the results below already work without it. But “I like Malbec” is at least four different preferences wearing one name, and saying which one you mean changes the answer substantially. Only qualities this wine actually has are offered.

I like…

The bright red fruit The rich dark fruit How fresh and crisp it is The firm, grippy structure That it is not oaky The spice

But it’s a bit…

too tart or sour-fruited too sharp or acidic too alcoholic or warming too light or thin too plain or too simple too peppery

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What these words mean

The bright red fruit: Raspberry, redcurrant, sour cherry — lighter and sharper than dark fruit, usually from a cooler place or an earlier picking.
The rich dark fruit: Blackberry, plum, black cherry — fruit that tastes ripe and generous rather than tart. It comes from warm-climate ripening and it is what most people mean when they call a red "fruity".
How fresh and crisp it is: Acidity is what makes your mouth water and makes a wine feel refreshing rather than heavy. It is the single most useful thing to know about your own taste.
The firm, grippy structure: High tannin — the drying grip on your gums, like over-brewed tea. It gives a red something to hold on to with rich food, and it is what lets a wine age.
That it is not too strong: Alcohol you notice as warmth at the back of the throat. Some people find it a pleasant part of a big red and some find it tiring.
How light it is: A wine you can drink without it feeling like a commitment. Usually lower in alcohol as well as lighter in the mouth.
That it is not oaky: No barrel character — just the fruit and the acidity. Chablis and Marlborough Sauvignon Blanc are the reference points.
The spice: Black pepper, clove, cinnamon. Some of it is the grape — the pepper in Syrah is a measured compound called rotundone — and some is the barrel.

Looking for something keeping the bright red-fruited character and that the fruit is not covered in oak, while moving away from too sharp or acidic.

You said you like the bright red-fruited character and that it is too sharp or acidic. Both are about perceived freshness, so they pull the same axis in opposite directions — the dislike is applied and the like is set aside.

Based on what you said

Ranked against the qualities you named rather than against the wine as a whole. The directions below are refined the same way.

Trousseau

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Has some of the bright red-fruited character, though less of it.
Keeps that the fruit is not covered in oak.
Substantially less sharp or acidic.

Fer Servadou

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Has some of the bright red-fruited character, though less of it.
Keeps that the fruit is not covered in oak.
Substantially less sharp or acidic.

Prokupac

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Has some of the bright red-fruited character, though less of it.
Keeps that the fruit is not covered in oak.
Substantially less sharp or acidic.

Ciliegiolo

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Has some of the bright red-fruited character, though less of it.
Keeps that the fruit is not covered in oak.
Substantially less sharp or acidic.

Nerello Cappuccio

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Has some of the bright red-fruited character, though less of it.
Keeps that the fruit is not covered in oak.
Substantially less sharp or acidic.

Castelão

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Has some of the bright red-fruited character, though less of it.
Keeps that the fruit is not covered in oak.
Substantially less sharp or acidic.

Dornfelder

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Has some of the bright red-fruited character, though less of it.
Keeps that the fruit is not covered in oak.
Substantially less sharp or acidic.

Jaen

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Has some of the bright red-fruited character, though less of it.
Keeps that the fruit is not covered in oak.
Substantially less sharp or acidic.

Closest overall

Nearest neighbours, no change of direction.

Closest matches

The nearest overall neighbours across structure and flavour, with no deliberate change of direction.

Trousseau

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be less tannic and softer, and more savoury.

Fer Servadou

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more herbal and green, and less spicy.

Prokupac

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be more savoury, and less tannic and softer.

Ciliegiolo

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and less tannic and softer.

Different grape, similar feel

Deliberately excludes the variety you already know, to find a genuinely new wine that fills the same role.

Trousseau

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be less tannic and softer, and more savoury.

Fer Servadou

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more herbal and green, and less spicy.

Prokupac

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be more savoury, and less tannic and softer.

Ciliegiolo

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and less tannic and softer.

Change the structure

Same idea, different weight, grip or freshness.

Similar but lighter

Keeps the character but reduces weight, alcohol and density in the mouth.

Grolleau

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and more restrained in fruit.

Cinsault

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and less tannic and softer.

Schiava

They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.

Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and more restrained in fruit.

Tibouren

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and more restrained in fruit.

Similar but lower in alcohol

Holds the character and the weight where it can, and moves specifically on strength. Note that below about 11% the choices narrow sharply, and below 5% they are mostly a different category rather than a lighter version of the same one.

English still Pinot Noir

English still Pinot Noir scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.

Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and fresher and more acidic.

Moschofilero

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fresher, and lighter.

Mantinia Moschofilero

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fresher, and lighter.

Grolleau

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more restrained in fruit, and lighter.

Similar but fuller

Keeps the character but adds weight, concentration and mouthfeel.

Tinta Barroca

They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.

Expect: Expect it to be fuller and richer, and softer and rounder.

Valpolicella Ripasso

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fuller and richer, and more oaky.

Australian Grenache

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fuller and richer, and more oaky.

Swartland Syrah and Rhône blends

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fuller and richer, and more oaky.

Similar but less tannic

For readers who find firm reds drying. Reduces tannic grip while holding flavour and weight roughly steady.

Cinsault

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and less tannic and softer.

Trousseau

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more savoury, and less spicy.

Pinot Meunier

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be fresher, and less tannic and softer.

Prokupac

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be more savoury, and stronger and warmer.

Similar but more structured

More tannic architecture, for food or for ageing.

Mavrud

They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and broader and softer.

Petit Verdot

Both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and fuller and richer.

Tannat

Both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and fuller and richer.

Madiran

Both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and fuller and richer.

Similar but softer

Lowers acidity and sharpness in favour of a broader, gentler feel.

Trousseau

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be less tannic and softer, and leaner and more cutting.

Fer Servadou

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more herbal and green, and less spicy.

Prokupac

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be leaner and more cutting, and more savoury.

Ciliegiolo

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and less tannic and softer.

The sparkling version

Moves to a sparkling expression while holding the flavour and weight as close as possible.

Lambrusco

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fresher, and stiller.

Lambrusco Grasparossa

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fresher, and stiller.

Sparkling Shiraz

They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and fruitier.

Conegliano Valdobbiadene Prosecco Superiore

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fresher, and less tannic and softer.

Similar but sweeter

Adds perceptible sweetness, which also softens acidity and chilli heat.

Dornfelder

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and more floral.

Lambrusco Grasparossa

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fresher, and sweeter.

Rondo

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and more herbal and green.

Tinta Negra

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and sweeter.

Change the flavour

Same shape, different aromatic character.

Similar but more oaky

Adds barrel character, toast and a creamier texture.

Valpolicella Ripasso

They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and fuller and richer.

Australian Grenache

They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and fuller and richer.

Swartland Syrah and Rhône blends

They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and fuller and richer.

Bonarda

They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and broader and softer.

Similar but more aromatic

More to smell before you taste — floral, fruity or spiced aromatics.

Cabernet Franc

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and more restrained in fruit.

Gamay

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and fresher.

Muscat Bailey A

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and less tannic and softer.

Morgon

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and fuller and richer.

Similar but more restrained

For readers who find intensely aromatic wines tiring over a whole glass. Keeps the structure, turns the volume down.

Pinot Blanc

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and more restrained in fruit.

Trebbiano Toscano

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be more restrained in fruit, and lighter.

Seyval Blanc

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be fresher, and more restrained in fruit.

Koshu

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be more restrained in fruit, and lighter.

Similar but more floral

Pushes specifically towards rose, violet, blossom and elderflower character.

Dornfelder

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and more neutral and subtle.

Jaen

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and more neutral and subtle.

Cinsault

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and less tannic and softer.

Cabernet Franc

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and more restrained in fruit.

Similar but more savoury

Moves away from primary fruit towards earth, herb, meat and umami character.

País

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be lighter, and more restrained in fruit.

Dão

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and more restrained in fruit.

Broad-leaved Melnik

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be broader and softer, and fuller and richer.

Trousseau

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be less tannic and softer, and cleaner and more fruit-focused.

Similar but fruitier

More obvious, generous fruit flavour, usually from a warmer climate.

Zinfandel

Zinfandel scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and fruitier.

Petite Sirah

Petite Sirah scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and fuller and richer.

Primitivo

Primitivo scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and broader and softer.

Primitivo di Manduria

Primitivo di Manduria scores closest to Mondeuse Noire across WineHQ’s taste dimensions.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and broader and softer.

Change the mood

Safer, stranger, cheaper or more serious.

A safe next step

Well-known wines that are widely available and unlikely to surprise anyone.

Cabernet Franc

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and more restrained in fruit.

Cru Beaujolais

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and fresher.

Gamay

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and fresher.

Syrah

curated

A close genetic relative with the same peppery signature.

Expect: Fuller-bodied and riper.

Something more adventurous

Less familiar wines that occupy similar territory — the interesting end of the shelf.

Trousseau

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be less tannic and softer, and more savoury.

Fer Servadou

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more herbal and green, and less spicy.

Prokupac

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be more savoury, and less tannic and softer.

Ciliegiolo

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and less tannic and softer.

A better-value alternative

Wines that occupy similar sensory territory from regions carrying less price premium. WineHQ does not hold live prices, so this reasons from regional reputation and demand rather than from a price feed — treat it as a lead, not a quote.

Trousseau

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be less tannic and softer, and more savoury.

Fer Servadou

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more herbal and green, and less spicy.

Prokupac

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be more savoury, and less tannic and softer.

Ciliegiolo

The structural profile is close across body, acidity and tannin.

Expect: Expect it to be less spicy, and less tannic and softer.

A step up

The benchmark expressions of the same territory, usually with more concentration, structure and ageing potential.

Southern Rhône blend

They occupy similar territory for weight and structure, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and softer and rounder.

Montepulciano d’Abruzzo

They occupy similar territory for weight and structure.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and softer and rounder.

Grenache

They occupy similar territory for weight and structure, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be softer and rounder, and more oaky.

Northern Rhône Syrah

They occupy similar territory for weight and structure, and both come from the same country.

Expect: Expect it to be more oaky, and fuller and richer.

How these are chosen

Each suggestion is scored across sixteen taste dimensions, weighted so that structure matters more than flavour, and adjusted for whether the wine actually moves in the direction you asked for. Curated links from an editor carry extra weight — but only when the editor tagged them for this direction. Nothing here is a black box; see the taste model for the full method.